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Roman S Shapoval's avatar

This social development wound up being more about regulating the small guy, than legalizing the benefits of CBD/THC. Everything in moderation, including moderation, I like to say!

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dharmanon's avatar

100%

I would add that our social use of these plants is indicative of our social maturity - a 'social barometer' perhaps. When you see a society that can use these plants properly, wisely, and. productively - then we know a truly mature civilisation has been reached. We are some way off that as yet, to understate drastically. These are indeed power plants - and the misuse of power is always possible with true freedom. It is the price we pay for freedom.

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Beagle's avatar

Well this week in our bodies are not our own, IVF is at risk. Did you catch Nicki Hayley's response? Word on the street is she has used IVF but can't state a coherent reason for or against it for everyone else.

Today's pot stinks like dog farts. Not being mean, I actually thought my dog farted. It's gross and we have to smell it everywhere we go now. There used to be smoking and non smoking sections in public places, and I know its an oxymoron but at least there was acknowledgement that some of us don't want to breathe it. I can smell it on people's clothing and on their breath as their body continues to break it down hours later. Worse yet is being on the highway behind someone and their windows are up and my windows are up and yet I can smell them several car lengths behind them. It seems to me if I was doing something illegal in the place I was doing it that I wouldn't want to take a chance a cop could smell my car from several car lengths away. The way this product is consumed today is to create a strain that stinks beyond all reason and is popular because it is cheap. I know someone who uses medicinally and theirs does not stink like dog farts. The culture today also places no recognition on the stench or anyone's right to not have to smell it or get sick from it accidentally.

I have tried to remain neutral neither for or against this product. The above makes it difficult. I don't enjoy getting sick to my stomach because I have to be near someone at my job who smokes. I have allergies and it's not my fault that being exposed to this strain makes me ill. Second hand smoke is still second hand smoke no matter what is smoked. Body odor is still body odor when you come to work whether the odor is sweat, pot, or too much cologne. Along with moderation, can we have courtesy back as well, please? The government is not fighting for my right not to get sick from second hand smoke because they are saying it shouldn't happen in the first place: which is to ignore that it is happening.

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Jordan Sather's avatar

Indeed - the situations you're describing definitely fall into that "irresponsible usage" category, harming others. Assholes being assholes.

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Grow_Wizzard's avatar

Common sense and curtesy have been lost. I grow and consume my own cannabis, yet you can walk around my property and not smell the flowers unless it's harvest time and I just pulled the plants. Then most of the smell is contained in my garage or house. I don't smoke cannabis, I eat it. So you won't smell the smoke on me. I don't grow trees, I also live in a city. Tall cannabis plants spread the smell for a long way. I grow the main stem on the ground and spread the plant out and let the branches get up about 3+ feet. Seldom I get a plant with 5 foot branches. But you can't see or smell my plants just walking down the street. I also grow a lot of flowers and a garden so you would see those plants. If more people were considerate of their neighbors these issues wouldn't be as big of an issue. Someone got their "Medical Pot" license and grow tens of trees in their yard cause they got a license.. Not a good neighbor!!! Like Jordan said, what I do with my body and my property as long as I'm not harming another or their property is non of the Government's business... Peace...

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Deb Nance's avatar

I remember years ago there was an entire automobile made from hemp. It's good for clothing and is a natural fiber. It makes way more sense for paper than trees. The taxes should be used to pay down the debt. Good article. Thanks.

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Aran Murphy's avatar

Thanks for sharing! A very important topic Jordan. I’ve been super passionate about herbal medicine for over 20 years and have highly criticized western pharmaceuticals. Through my experience with sacred plant medicine circles, I’ve truly seen the wisdom and spirit that nature brings to us. Cannabis is meant to be grown outdoors in natural sunlight. Most of the issues I see in Colorado especially come from that it’s grown indoors with chemicals, made into concentrates and no longer has the true spirit in it. I pray that sungrown buds can be more available and the true essence of the plant medicines be embraced.

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Aran Murphy's avatar

I’m happy to offer a free sample of sungrown cbd spygeric tincture, just email me at aranseptaria@icloud

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RoseThistle's avatar

Well said, Jordan. You said, "The government should have no say what I do with my own body or land as long as I am not harming anyone or harming property." And that coincides with God's Law, which is Common Law, which is based on Biblical instructions, which is what this nation's law was founded upon. Laws of precedent are man's idea to fix what God made, but laws of precedent are unfair and lazy, due to basing a totally new case on what happened in some other basically unrelated case and some decision by someone not involved in the current case.

In God's Law, only a victim seeking restoration makes charges that are then investigated and judged in courts. "Government" was the church back in the day and they lost that governing of others right/power when a high priest, not appointed by God, sought false witnesses, Matthew 26:59-60 KJV (against God's instructions), to crucify an Innocent Man they thought was interfering with them politically, and the church went along with it. They had given the high priest so much power that they had no way to govern the governor, in other words.

Gov has ZERO business either legalizing, or making illegal, any plant. Either way, money grubbing people in gov jobs are seeking money and job preservation. Legalizing = permit fees, licensing fees, regulation and making illegal = policing fees, court fees, jail fees, etc.

If people want to eat garbage, drink themselves to death, get high, trash their own bodies, they are the only one who could bring charges against themselves and seek restoration of damages. God is there if they realize they cannot restore what they've damaged, they sincerely repent, and ask Him to intervene in Jesus' Name.

Regarding Federal Land, it's not legal to grow any crop on that land, as far as I know. Anyone destroying what Americans wanted to be preserved in its natural state should be charged and restore the damages.

Private companies can be formed where they gain public trust through their integrity and they replace FDA or other bureaucracies with concerned consumers who want to help others avoid problematic crops, etc.

So, bottom line for me is that government butts its fat, greedy foot out the door on any actions regarding plants, unless grown on purpose on Federal land. Only victims of damages can bring charges and ask for restoration in courts. If someone gets in a crash due to someone else being impaired by alcohol, it doesn't matter WHY except in context of liability. If a crash happens due to someone having a medical event and passing out, that is different than someone making many choices that led to them driving impaired, for example.

If everyone can grow their own and there are private organizations monitoring the safety or effectiveness of the product, cartels aren't going to make money and won't be wasting time on that.

I heard it was some guy who wanted to make paper out of wood who crushed the hemp industry. If so, that needs some looking into. That is absolutely ridiculous to have government helping one industry and crushing another. That's not their job.

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Grow_Wizzard's avatar

Rose, read my Substack on cannabis it will explain how cannabis was illegally made illegal...

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RoseThistle's avatar

Hi, Grow. I looked for an article on cannabis on your substack and couldn't find it.

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Grow_Wizzard's avatar

Rose, it's from last year so it's buried deep, I get it through my dashboard and posts. So I haven't checked the page to give instructions to find it. Here is the link https://growwizzard35.substack.com/p/cannabis hope that helps. Thanks for letting me know you couldn't find it.. Peace...

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Ann-Marie Michaels's avatar

The problem with cannabis is it is loaded with heavy metals that cause cancer, calcify the pineal gland, and disconnect you from your intuition.

“Heavy metals, such as lead, mercury, cadmium and chromium, are known to be carcinogenic,” said Louis Bengyella, assistant research professor of plant science, Penn State. “The heavy-metal content of cannabis is not regulated; therefore, consumers could unknowingly be exposed to these toxic metals. This is bad news for anyone who uses cannabis but is particularly problematic for cancer patients who use medical marijuana to treat the nausea and pain associated with their treatments.”

https://www.psu.edu/news/research/story/cannabis-may-contain-heavy-metals-and-affect-consumer-health-study-finds/

https://www.health.com/marijuana-heavy-metals-in-body-7968387

Hemp is a bioaccumulator. So it would be fine to grow it for rope and paper -- but not to consume.

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Jordan Sather's avatar

Depends on how & where it's grown.

A lot of grow ops use pesticides that are laden with heavy metals, or they're growing it in gross soils, so you do have a point for sure.

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Ann-Marie Michaels's avatar

Nope. It's a bioaccumulator. And there is no regulation. See the quote cited above.

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Aran Murphy's avatar

A bioaccumulater can also accumulate lots of amazing minerals, hence organic and sustainable agriculture methods needed for best health benefits. A method we use is called spygeric and water soluble minerals can be added back to the finished product.

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Ann-Marie Michaels's avatar

OK well I'll just stick to my martinis. Vermouth means wormwood -- it's a natural antiparasitic. Wine also has tannins from the grape skins and oak barrels -- which is antiparasitic. Plus pot makes people stupid.

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Patriot19's avatar

Narrow thinking will cause you more problems.

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Ann-Marie Michaels's avatar

That's not a logical response.

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Grow_Wizzard's avatar

If my soil has no heavy metals, and my organic compost tea has no heavy metals in it. How other than Chemtrails is heavy metals going to get in my cannabis? Please explain how a plant can make heavy metals, I may need to grow some just to extract the heavy metals to sell on the commercial market!!! I am acutely aware of cannabis's phytoremediator qualities. It has been used to clean soils. As stated in this comment section, that property can cause the plant to uptake numerous vitamins and minerals and grow a healthy plant that provides the consumer those compounds...

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RoseThistle's avatar

In other words, could there be a powerful pharma/medical industry that has an interest in seeding studies and stories against some plant that God made and is therefore not able to be patented by them, meaning they can't make money off it?

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RoseThistle's avatar

Isn't it strange how anti-parasiticals are showing results fighting cancer? From your comment, being afraid of the metals appears to be due to someone saying it is linked with cancer. Correlation does not equal causation.

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Ann-Marie Michaels's avatar

Metals and parasites go hand in hand.

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Patriot19's avatar

If the plants are NOT grown in an industrial waste site, then commonsense would tell us that someone's tomato garden is NOT a problem.

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Tom Richardson's avatar

Well said, Jordan!

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Patriot19's avatar

Not one person has ever deserved to go to prison for growing their own marijuana. How ironic that it was once mandatory.

Making people criminals for consuming a naturally growing plant is beyond tyranny, it is pure evil.

Those that have profited, and still do, from the "Schedule One LIES" criminalizing marijuana (big pharma, big booze, big paper, big cotton) are among the most evil people in this world. And, much worse, are those that profit from people being enslaved in prison (Cornell Corrections, Core Civic, GEO and their (Poison) Ivy League cohorts supporting mandatory sentencing)

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DJKetch's avatar

Kyle ( Just Human ) brought up in the last week or two that Budweiser pays lobbyists to keep marijuana where it is .. I guess it’s to keep people drinking their skunk piss

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Patriot19's avatar

The illegality of cannabis is STILL driven by the corrupt influence in government by corporate (cotton) farms, Big Pharma, Big Booze, Big Paper (tree farmers) and idiots with very narrow thinking. But, even worse, are the privately owned prisons that have pushed mandatory sentencing.

Privacy and Freedom should be our government's FIRST concern, not the $$$BILLIONS$$$ being laundered and used against the American citizen.

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Richard Henry Lee's avatar

Thank you. an article that looks from several angles. One angle not mentioned is the likely role of CIA in hybridization of high THC and other addictive characteristics, and it's programmed legalization. Those who use grass to tune out are avoiding the Great Awakening. Thus it seems likely that accelerated legalization is part of the attempted takeover of America.

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Judd's avatar

What does being America first have to do with this? So because I like my country I go in the basket of deplorables box? Maybe not crap on the reader hefore you make your case. I suppose Biden voters are all for legalization? Spare me.

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Kevin Nicholson's avatar

Practicing moderation in all good things is key - intoxicating oneself defeats sobriety and wise thoughts and actions. Base addictions are always used to defeat a society and a Nation in the end...

Godspeed to those of good will - productive Lent.

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